November 19, 2007

Flight 93's passenger boarding method in conflict

It's been reported that the passengers on Flight 93 had boarded the plane via the boarding ramp/jetway at Newark Airport:

Flight 93: Forty lives, one destiny
The Flight 93 passengers had walked down the concourse of Terminal A, where they breezed past the security gate, then walked the 100 yards to a long circular hallway from which the boarding ramps jutted out like spokes.
At Gate 17, they strode another 70 feet down the jetway, made a left turn, and were inside the Boeing 757. - (10/28/01)

An American flag flies over Gate 17 of Terminal A at Newark Liberty International Airport. On September 11, 2001, United Airlines Flight 93 pushed back from the gate at 8:01 am, headed for San Francisco.

The article reports twice that the passengers used the boarding ramp:

One passenger was late. Mark Bingham had overslept and his friend, Matthew Hall, drove madly from Manhattan to Newark. They screeched to a halt outside Terminal A at 7:40. Bingham leapt from the car, lugging the old, blue-and-gold canvas bag he'd used as a rugby player at the University of California at Berkeley a decade earlier.
United attendants reopened the door to the boarding ramp and let him on the plane.

However, it's been discovered that an eyewitness tells a different story:

Triton's Clayton White on other side of recruiting
"You might say Clayton White's life has come full circle since February 1996.
White’s career didn’t end there, however. He eventually made the NFL’s New York Giants as a free agent and spent three seasons in the league, the last one in 2002 with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
But the most lasting memory of White’s time in New York had nothing to do with football.
"We had played a Monday night game in Denver, and flew back home the next morning," White said. "We landed in Newark, N.J., about 6:45 in the morning. We usually get off the plane on the tarmac and board a bus to get to our cars. "I noticed another plane sitting next to ours because the people were walking to the plane across the tarmac instead of through the jetway. "Two weeks later, as we’re taking another plane to a game, one of the stewardesses informed us the plane that had been boarding next to us was Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania on 9/11. That was a very eerie feeling." - Fayetteville Observer (01/31/06)

Note that White's plane landed at 6:45am. The Post-Gazette article says that Flight 93 was scheduled to take-off at 8:01am, but was delayed and backed off the gate at 8:01am. The flight crew reportedly boarded 35 minutes prior which would have made it around 7:25am:

Late. They were late. United Airlines Flight 93 had been scheduled to take off at 8:01 a.m. Now it was sitting on the tarmac, waiting for clearance to depart for San Francisco.

The crew boarded its flight 35 minutes ahead of the scheduled departure.

This is also at the same airport where a fire happened the day before which temporarily closed down the airport.

This all reminds me of what they had planned in Operation Northwoods:

An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.

See also:

November 15, 2007

Flight 11 for sale???


Seller now saying serial number was a mistake:

My applogy it is 22330 not 22332 !


This is the plane he is trying to sell you:

(More about this plane accident.)


Atlas Aviation (Cached)

(Snapshot taken 11/15/07.)

.............. AirDisaster.Com | Atlas Aviation
Flight 11
Aircraft: ....Boeing 767-223ER | 767-223 200ER

Serial Number: ..........22332 | 22332

Engine Maker: General Electric | General Electric

Engine Model: ........CF6-80A2 | CF6-80A2

Year of Delivery: ........1987 | 1987

November 11, 2007

Homeland Security: Killtown is a 'Terrorist'


Use of the Internet by Terrorists


Witnesses testified about terrorist groups using the Internet to recruit and radicalize their followers. Topics included illustrations of propaganda used on Internet sites, instructions for making bombs, the role of al-Qaeda, appealing to young people, counterterrorism through positive sites, and other solutions.


Homeland Security - Intelligence, Information Sharing, and Terrorism Risk Assessment

Hatip to stopsnitchin.

November 07, 2007

Q&A with 'September Clues' maker at

"SocialService" will be taking Q&A about his hit TV-Fakery series 'September Clues' at

November 06, 2007

Planehugger LUCUS wants to kick my ass

I was banned for no apparent reason from the chatroom (again) after I was invited back by someone at TNRLive's MySpace:

I was then forwarded the following exchange by LUCUS, the "maker" of The Ultimate Con, in the chatroom that took place some time after I got the boot:

[LUCUS] 8:11 pm: I really do not like killtown
[calvin] 8:11 pm: yeah we notice that lucus
[LUCUS] 8:11 pm: and if I ever met him in person i would have a hard time not kicking his ass

November 05, 2007

Hate email from 'SimiusDei'

I don't usually post people's emails to me, but couldn't resist with this one. I emphasized my favorite parts:


Damn, you have made quite the little name for yourself since your whiny bitch days at Unfortunately, it's of a pretty pathetic sort.

What exactly do you hope to accomplish with your ignorant tactics? It's bad enough that you are trying to push a theory that has absolutely ZERO supportive evidence, but you go out so far out of your way in promoting your fairy tale that you spend countless hours out of your day verbally attacking any and everyone who happens to doubt your bullshit for a second. What hole was left in your early life that you seem to feel the need to fill it by digitally trying to one up everyone else in the ability to be a complete and total dick?

You say repeatedly, on your little blog, say that you wish to honor those lost on 9/11. HA! You do nothing but disgrace them with your actions and your venomous insults that you direct at everyone that is unfortunate enough to come in contact with you, You, along with Phil Jayhan and a few others, are nothing but a snotty little piece of shit with a digital ego far too large for you to control. You thrust yourself in the midst of a movement that was far better off without you and have succeeded in making a name for yourself, not through intelligence or contribution, but through your undeniable ability to show, time and time again, just what kind of fucking idiot you can really be. In all of the time that you have been a small part of the 9/11 truth community, you have contributed absolutely NOTHING. You, also like Phil Jayhan, hijacked a theory put forth by someone else and passed it off as your own. Unfortunately, you picked a theory that is undeniably false and has long since passed the level of lunacy.

You do absolutely NOTHING for the truth community BUT give it a bad name. In fact, you are SO good at giving it a bad name, I have to wonder if that's not your goal.

Keep watching that clock. Phil Jayhan's 15 minutes ended a short while ago and the second hand of yours is rapidly approaching the 3. You have no one to blame but yourself.

Jasn (aka: SimiusDei@abovetopsecret)

I wonder who he thinks I verbally attack for disagreeing with any of my theories?

November 02, 2007

Death threat by a planehugger

(Update: 11/04/07)

Haven't received one of these in a while:

Your claims are simply stoopit Killtown, you are not a member of the truth movement, you are either a liar and a disinfo agent or a very bad researcher.

It is already difficult for us to tell people that bombs were in the buildings, now you want to suggest even more difficult to show, something that will make us all look crazier then we already are: there were no planes. When will you upgrade to the theory that there was no buildings either?

Keep posting anonymously dude, because if I find out where you are I will show you a hologram of a sick disinfo agent hanging off his shower curtain. And that is not a treat, that is a promise. People who speak the truth do not need to speak anonymously.

PepeLapiu a.k.a.
Guy Cotnoir
32 Citadel Meadows Gardens
Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Maybe I should tell Alex Floum about this.


And the death threats by PepeLapiu continue:

Killtown is not a truther, Killtown is a liar and a disinfo agent. He should be strung up on the White House lawn right next to Bush and Cheney. I asked me questions politely several times and he kept ignoring them on several forums, not only the one forum. Only now that I get aggressive he claims he won't answer my questions because I am too aggressive, well that's a cop out because he has been ignoring my questions just as you have since the beginning.

Am I being aggressive? -Damn f@cking straight I am!!
We were attacked on 9/11, we have had half of our money stolen from us in the form of taxes to finance 9/11, we are living under a total police state and moving toward even worst. I am aggressive as I not only have the right to get aggressive, that is my duty.

Hopefully you will one day stop peddling your ridiculous no-planer crap and get angry with me so we can both walk up to Washington or Ottawa and hang the f@ckers with a pitch fork stuck up their asses.

Killtown is an idiot, Killtown has no desire to speak the truth, Killtown speaks very little about the demolition of WTC and the videos of WTC-7. Killtown would rather peddle his crap instead of talking about the obvious. Killtown doesn't want to unite the truth movement, Killtown wants everyone to argue about stoopit ridiculous crap like no-planes and holograms and the likes.

Killtown should swing from a rope on the White House lawn - between Bush and Tom Flocco that is.


And another:

You're right .... I'm sorry that the little f@cker is allowed to live and allowed to spread his bullshiit

Honestly I didn't loose my cool. I still feel that Killtown and cie. belong on the front lawn of the White House swinging at the end of a rope.

But they already know that it's meaningless. I am still waiting for the SWAT team to come break my door and arrest me for threatening the life of Killtown .... and not to mention the prez from whom Killtown gets paid.